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It's hard to say. The Parade All American was the only thing available to the public at the time. Lester Williams was the first national recruit I remember. It was considered a big coup back then.

It was after the last game of the 1978 season ... figure Dec 1978.

Howard came a week after Saban resigned. He was OC for Shula at the time and saw the change in recruiting momentum Saban had started. IN addition to Kelly, Saban also recruited Lester Williams Jim Burt, and Fred Marion.

I just noticed that and added a response.

Funny may be the wrong word. Unusual or odd may be more appropriate. He usually has a lot to say about DB play and/or coaching. Given how much he follows this position group, I was looking forward to his input on who he would think area the best and most viable candidates for this opening.

No it’s not, it means he’s made his mark and doesn’t have to prove anything to anyone. It's funny, I noticed that @Memnon hasn't chimed in on this yet.

How about this? Turning your head

Just watch the games. Mike's CBs held up better than anyone fielded by Manny or Banda. And as previously stated, he had the no 1 pass defense in the country in 2018. As much as it's been denied, most still hold the recruitment of Surtain and Cambell against him. Neither were ever coming...

Not to mention he doesn't suffer divas well (e.g., Henderson) and didn't have the funding behind recruiting (e.g., Campbell). What's the point? Rumph's still a better position coach than the bartender.