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He never had them, not even under Richt.

Sounds like you've already made up your mind. Evidently, you've never gotten over Surtain, Campbell, Stevenson, Jobe who were never coming here. I guess it was too much to expect a root cause analysis. The masses are going to expect a corpse to be tossed to them if things don't go as...

You add in the on-going move towards spread offenses, it makes these 6'2" guys running 4.3-4.4 the highest priced guys on the market.

I think we're in agreement.. No one has questioned this. Negotiating under these circumstances (and it is a negotiation as much as it's a recruitment) is never ideal. It smacks of desperation. It's just as easy to scare someone off as it is to attract them. That's one reason why I've...

When brought up, people are accused of being Rumph slurpers, it's clearly not well established. Many are still in denial. I did say it. It's the question whose in control of the CB board. Bashing Rumph without considering who's responsible for the CB is a clear lack of critical thinking...

They may not refuse to acknowledge it but they still blame Rumph for it. Last year Banda was blamed as well, Williams is the first where he overcame it. This is the million dollar question, who controls the CB board. I've been asking for over a year. Those that know, who have inside access...

Come on yourself. It's not unusual for a DB coach to coach the DBs (yes, the way we use them I include the strikers as DBs). In fact, in most cases, it's the standard practice.

Other than Nesta, we haven't gotten the elite guys until this year. Brooks may have been elite except for his injury. He seems to be back to his own self. But there's always a risk. I remember Jelani Hamilton. He never seemed the same after his.

I don't mind going after high rated guys particularly if they're from So Fla. But what I don't understand (and this may fall under the category of cohesive CB board), why don't they target the next level and aggressively recruit them early. I not talking about the jags but solid 4* types like...

LOL , no I'm not Mike. This whole coach up thing and not being able green light a recruit is based on others that are closer to it than me. Quotes were provided. I'm not or never calmed he's an ACE recruiter but there seems to be more to this than he can't recruit so get rid of him. If you...

I doubt it's any of those. No one can convince me he can't recognize a good CB when he sees one. I think because this is his first college job, they don't trust him. But I have no inside knowledge. Mike is in a no win situation. He has to coach up half the defense with talent he seemingly has...

Don't try to tell that to these guys. You're just putting yourself in the middle of a good rant.

Don't forget the safeties and strikers.

It's been discussed before but no one wants to believe it. I guess it's just easier to blame Rumph. Some of you need to reread the 🚨🚨 ¡ MIKE RUMPH ! 🚨🚨 thread. Rumph does not and never has controlled the CB board. He can't green light an offer to any one. Excerpts Who knows. It goes...

Facts??? You state up front that you're comfortable saying he stinks, then you arbitrarily establish narrow metrics to support and buttress your "opinion". Tier 3 by any statistically standard is average, mediocre, ruin-of-the-mill. 50% of D1 schools fall within that band. Tier 2 would...

I'd have to agree with most of this. While I believe most have been overly harsh on him on account of high profile misses (most of whom were never coming IMO), to make the jump to this level he's going to need some help. He is what he is.

Unless I misunderstand, Miami's .*8988 rating is smack in the middle of the tier 2 group or the group that you've said "have also done pretty well at recruiting corners". I would think tier three is significantly less than "pretty well".