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Man...and those numbers include the shafting we got at ND. JJ's record over the last 3 years would have been: Record: 35-1 (.972) Record vs Top 25: 15-1 (.937) Record vs Top 10: 9-1 (.900) Wins vs #1's: 3 (3-0) NC's: 2

I give him credit. It's just that it's a little tough to hang with guys like Howard and JJ. Here's another stat and the reason why, in my mind, Johnson is clearly ahead of Erickson: Each coach's record over their last 3 years... (mostly their players and their system in place) JJ Record: 34-2...

I agree. Records are similar but the impact they had on the program are night and day.

He was. I was comparing the coaches records after 5 years. Erickson coached 1 more year than JJ.

The numbers say... W/L records are nearly identical. Jimmy played a slightly tougher schedule with better results. I'm not going out on a limb here when I say JJ probably has more top 25 wins and more wins vs #1's than any other UM coach in history.

Coach's record after 5 years: JJ Record: 52-9 (.852) Record vs Top 25: 19-7 (.731) Record vs Top 10: 12-4 (.750) Wins vs #1's: 4 NC's: 1 Erickson- Record: 53-7 (.883) Record vs Top 25: 16-6 (.727) Record vs Top 10: 10-4 (.714) Wins vs #1's: 2 NC's: 2

JJ was 2 plays away from 3. It's no surprise that Erickson's players liked him, especially since they won. Erickson's record at 63-9 with a couple of Natty's "ain't bad". I have nothing against the man, but I slot him in at 3/4 as far as my favorite coaches.