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This is the last time I will beat this dead horse. You mean that same UNC team that struggled to beat FCS William and Mary at home 21-17, with most of their players back from suspension? I’m not arguing what you think about Butch as a coach (although some of your logic defies...well...logic)...

I’m not sure if you’re directing your reply at me. So let me re-state the things I’ve said in this thread, yet again, just in case... 1. I am a Miami and a Butch Davis fan, and have not “scorned” him in my posts to this thread. 2. I think what he (eventually) accomplished at Miami was amazing...

I’m not arguing against your point. I clearly said he accumulated some very good talent, with quite a few players taken in the draft. I clearly said they were improved. I was simply arguing Calvin’s point that UNC would have won a national title in 2010. UNC also beat Miami in 2004, with much...

Take a look at my user name and avatar. I am NOT a UNC fan. So there is no need to wish me luck with Fedora. I am a Miami fan, a Miami alumnus, and was a student, sitting in the OB student section during our first four championship seasons (undergrad and med school). As I said, I was living in...

I am a Butch Davis fan, and fully recognize the incredible contributions he made while at Miami. I also lived in NC when he coached at UNC and followed his time there closely. I think you may want to recheck your history/recollection. He coached 4 seasons at UNC, and only the last season were...