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If we win the coastal with 3 losses fine but history has proven 5-3 will not win the division. So I would be very disappointed if we go 5-3 in conference with this staff, this QB, and these skill players.

I think 8-4 would be extremely disappointing because it probably means we lost 3 ACC games (unless you’ve got loses to any of MTSU, Southern Miss or Bethune penciled in) which means we most definitely are not in contention for the Coastal. 6-2 should be our conference record. I will concede...

So you think this coaching staff is only 1 game better than Mannys? Roster or not without 4th and 14 this team is 8-4 last year.

8-4 with TVD would be extremely disappointing. 9-3 should be the floor.