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This is healthy dialogue. Canes Fan Therapy. Please continue.

I use Top 25 as the benchmark. That's fair, right?! What's our record vs Top 25 teams the last decade or so? Also to your "we'll never be good blah blah blah" point.. That's not true. We are saying "We will never be GREAT". Big difference.

Probably thought we'd beat Bama too.

Kansas is also on a winning streak. Watch out.

Oklahoma. Oklahoma St. Iowa St. Texas. That's 4 losses. TCU. West Virginia. KState. Baylor. One of them would be us. My opinion of course... But yeah, they suck too.

ACC is trash. Any other conference (maybe not Pac12) & we lose more than that. At best, we are the USA men's national team pretending to compete in the World Cup bc of how we did in CONCAF.