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A lot. Every kid is different. It doesn't make the kid any less of a lazy ****. My argument is simply that a REAL program with a REAL coaching staff would have had a better chance of extracting more out of a kid like Donaldson than the ******** we have in place.

Not at all, I just think we've been surrounded by such absolutely pathetic coaching staffs for so long...that we forgot what a good one looks like and the byproduct impact it has on the program and culture as a whole. A lot of these problems we are discussion are pervasive in bad programs and...

That's where we disagree. When a parent trusts a staff with their kid it's implied they'll get the best out of him and make a man out of him. We forget, these are kids. Think about how you were at 17. I was an ******* and had no direction. That's the difference between being a pro coach and...

It doesn't skirt anywhere. Point is given alot of these kids backgrounds MANY of them slack off. The ones at better schools with better coaching provide a better support system and get the best out of these kids. Is the kid responsible for his own demise? Of course...but make no mistake we...

I hear you, but again that points back to coaching and leadership. A better coaching staff would have won more games, garnered more quality depth around Donaldson, and thus could have afforded to bench him. That benching along with better coaching might have motivated him and he might have...

People don't realize the byproduct that comes to fruition when you're program is organized the way ours is. When you have THE worst administration in the country, they continue to make bad coaching hires. Those bad coaching hires CONTINUE to lose games they should win. Recruits, and more...

Only thing I agree with above is that we are stuck with what we have. And what we are stuck with is the worst administration and coaching staff in the country.

Then you HAVE to hold the coaching staff accountable for losing games against 2 opponents, with a bye week to prepare, with a better roster than those 2 respective opponents. Bottom line. We have an unqualified coaching staff that was hired by an unqualified administration. NOTHING else...

For losing to NC and VT with 2 weeks to prepare??? Sorry, but when you compare our roster to each of those 2 teams the problems is CLEARLY coaching. And like I've said many times, I'm more worred about the MACRO issue at play here. At this point weekly results don't even matter cause we're...

He's not the ONLY reason. I'd blame every single member of the BOT as well.

We have an administration problem. We have an AD problem. None of the other problems matter and won't get corrected until those two are corrected.