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Sure I get that - but is Matt Campbell elite? Maybe, maybe not. I doubt we will ever consider him at an elite level if he stays at ISU. If he goes to somewhere like Ohio State people would call him elite in a hurry. Ohio State is an elite program and most competent coaches will look great...

A person could argue that there is a lot more elite coaches out there than people know. I think it would be more fair to say there is 5 or 6 elite "programs". If Saban never leaves Mich State or if Jimmy never leaves OSU would anybody have ever recognized them as elite coaches?