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  1. JD4

    LB Vincent Shavers commits to Canes

    I'm all about going national. Which we're doing. And once we get great national kids in that help us win, the local kids will want to come here and we'll choose the local kids that fit our culture and are talented to help us win
  2. JD4

    LB Vincent Shavers commits to Canes

    Even when you exclude their 5 year stretch with Tebow and chips they still won and played in more meaningful games than us... In that stretch they: -- Won our H2H matchup -- Won the SEC East 3x to our ACC Coastal 1x (SEC way more impressive of an achievement and they did it 3x and more...
  3. JD4

    LB Vincent Shavers commits to Canes

    I agree there are other factors like @gogeta4 said. I'm just sticking up for the kids a little bit. The truth is if we start winning we'll get more kids locally who will want to come here. Until recently the university basically didn't give a sht about the football program. If the university...
  4. JD4

    LB Vincent Shavers commits to Canes

    I didn't like writing it out but I also think just blaming kids down here for not being loyal or whatever is stupid if you're trying to compare them to programs that have been relevant in their lifetimes. CMR began the process of re-establishing roots in the community, but he was old and sick...
  5. JD4

    LB Vincent Shavers commits to Canes

    You're not putting enough weight on the recent success of both schools though. In the last 15 years: UF: -- Won a national championship game -- Won an Orange Bowl, -- Won a Sugar Bowl, and -- 5 minor bowl game wins, -- Appeared and lost in Sugar Bowl once -- Won the SEC -- Won the SEC East...
  6. JD4

    LB Vincent Shavers commits to Canes

    Maybe, but it is tough to say. Using your example of LSU, they have won 3 national championships in the time since we won our last one. They also have won the SEC in the modern era more than one and we haven't won a conference title since 2003. LSU is also the only prestigious university in...
  7. JD4

    LB Vincent Shavers commits to Canes

    It makes sense that kids who grow up in Miami and want to be noticed by Miami feel more scorned if Miami doesn't notice them early and people from other big programs further away start chasing them first
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