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Right, forgot about that. I guess they can't all have that Penn State resilience.

I get why USC and FSU have had their problems, but why is MSU hitting hard times? Not that they were ever great, but a lot better than this.

Not sorry for you at all. All I was saying is those were rough days for the program during the Selmer years. Football didn't get the attention it deserved. Talk of dropping football. All that sort of stuff. I admire the fact that you were on the team.

Oh I completely agree, but for us to be back, we need to beat teams at their best.

If we need to win because our opponents have problems, then...

Sounds like the perfect place for a QB whisperer. I know a guy who's looking for a job.

You were there during some very rough times. If you ever heard a kid on a bus driving by making fun of you for wearing pink (faded red) scrimmage jerseys, it was me and Id like to say I'm sorry.

Congratulations Dan Enos!