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You can develop players at any point in the career trajectory. Nobody was banging down the door of those QBs to get them and Gruden got productive offenses out of them. His record is indicative of his poor personnel decisions and hires.

Gruden treats offensive players like a 5-year old treats toys. They're disposable gadgets for him. Disagree about the QB part though. Gruden can scheme with the best and gets the most out of limited guys. Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Jeff Garcia, Carr, etc. All these guys improved greatly under...