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Ok I see your point now....but it’s just not possible to determine that. I think Brady wins 3 in 4 years with the bronco teams Manning had (the one with top 5 defenses every year, the one that got to the divisional round with Tim MF Tebow, the one that won the Super Bowl the year Manning was one...

Only 3 other QB’s have started for him since he’s been with the pats and two of them did not play well

Brady’s numbers are crazy too. He doesn’t just have rings that’s where you and gator hater get confused. Russell doesn’t have the numbers that’s why he’s not considered anywhere near the Goat conversation

Bernie Kosar, Testaverde, brissett, Bledsoe....cassell had a season where he threw for 27 TD and 7 int in Kansas City

I didn’t know Marino, Montana, Brees were coached by bums

Those great QB’s you put ahead of him probably had twice the amount of talent on offense. Manning had Wayne and harrison for a decade. Montana had Rice and an elite running game Rodgers and brees get to throw the ball 50 + times a game to inflate their numbers. We saw what Brady did in 2007...

Packers blow even with Rodgers. You seen them? Going from 18-1 and being one ine of the greatest teams of all time to missing the playoffs is a bigger drop off than say going from 11-5 to 4-12 like those teams you mentioned

So whoever can throw bombs into triple coverage is the goat lol. Dude has 12 GW drives in the playoffs. That’s what goats do

Pats went from 18-1 and destroying the league to scratching and crawling their way to 11-5 and missing the playoffs....but you don’t think that was a huge drop off ? Lol

yea because all I said was “5 rings” lol. Dude has GOAT numbers AND GOAT amount of rings AND super bowl appearances AND GOAT amount of game winning drives. GOAT is the guy who comes out on top when you take numbers, rings and performance in big games into consideration, I never said “5 rings...

Because it’s a dumbass question....you’re trying to decide “how would each player do on that team” when there’s no way you could ever determine that. If the heat had ended up with only bosh and wade Everybody would have said “put LeBron on the heat with Bosh and wade and they’d never lose a...

How do you know he wouldn’t have multiple Super Bowls? These hypotheticals are lazy....no one knows what would happen if we put manning on the patriots or Brady on the ravens or this or that. What we do know is he has 5 rings, has been to 9 Super Bowls and has beaten many teams that are more...

How you know he would have never won ? The pats were a bad franchise before Brady got there (2 super bowl appearances 0 wins in like 30 years). You’re basically asking would brady still be the GOAT if he wasn’t Brady

He has numbers , 5 Super Bowls, 12 game winning drives. Manning has numbers Who would you put ahead of him

They don’t have great defenses. 25th, 21st, 26th, 31st. Those are some of the defensive rankings for the pats in the last 8 years

Bellichik system? He’s a defensive guy and pats defense have been bad for a while now lol

They just hate Brady and the Pats which I understand

Brady’s playoff numbers **** on Manning’s playoff numbers even though manning has always had more talent on his offenses

Bellichick was doing so great before Brady

Broncos defense rankings when Peyton was there : 3rd, 2nd, 1st