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  1. Gatorhater

    List of most dbs in the league

    Ah, the problem we are having is definition of good coach. For me a college coach who can’t evalute or recruit is not very good at all. I agree it can be done without a Butch Davis, Howard did it, but it sure is easier with Butch. Now what we have to see is who close does a coach need to be...
  2. Gatorhater

    List of most dbs in the league

    I think we are agreeing but you like to slice some to disagree. That’s ok. Heck, I’m a old trial lawyer so it is virtual dna for me. JJ was still learning and got used by Majors and old Pa, but still in a class of his own at his peak. I’ve know Howard for years and Legend is exactly correct...
  3. Gatorhater

    List of most dbs in the league

    Miami is not easy. To the contrary, it is the hardest job in college football for the reasons I stated. It is all or nothing job. Win and NFL backs up money truck. Lose and good bye. It takes a man big enough for the job. Nobody since Butch has been. I am lot a slice and dice type. I...
  4. Gatorhater

    List of most dbs in the league

    You’re parsing element of coaching to emphasize a specific point. Howard said it, the only thing stopping Miami from winning NC is coaching. It was true then and remains so. Our failed HCs never get another HC job because they have already proved to everyone that they cannot win a NC...
  5. Gatorhater

    List of most dbs in the league

    The big difference is how few former coaches we have the league now. We use to put both, now it is just players
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