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No that is not what I am saying at all. These are not mutually exclusive outcomes. You can and should expect to beat the snot chit out of FSU and that doesn't impact the expectation that Manny and BJ will be fired by the end of the year. As a fan, you should demand both. A win or loss against...

You are hypothetically asking if 'Canes fans would be content and satisfied and perhaps even happy at the prospect of losing against FSU if (and that is a might big "if") it meant Manny would absolutely and unequivocally get fired. My answer is flat out "no." That is not something IMHO a 'Canes...

You said "take a loss" not live with a loss. As a 'Cane, you should never be satisfied or content with losing to F$U. Ever. But, hey maybe I'm old school...

Agreed. So you going to watch us play F$U and cheer on the 'Noles? "Nice run, Travis!" "Did you see Jermaine Johnson destroy Miami's o-line!" "Man...Toafili is tearing us up...love it...Go 'Noles!" Can't do it... If Manny is who we (most of us at least) know he is, he will find a way to lose...

NO! If you find yourself rooting against the 'Canes, just find another team. My lord...how can you ever root against YOUR OWN **** TEAM.