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Sure. And I have no qualms admitting that I believe our current staff, even with all their faults, knows enough about football to be able to watch a kid practice day after day and get a feel as to whether a QB's "got it" or not. I'm sure many of you disagree with that. That's cool.

There's absolutely validity to the position that our staff did not deploy a system that would properly use Tate Martell's talents. I agree with you on that. Where you and I disagree is our opinions (and that's all they are) as to why our staff didn't embrace Tate Martell as our QB1. You seem...

Correct, instead we're sitting here saying "how ******* garbage must have Martell been to get beat out by jarren and Kosi all season long?"

You're right, I relent. If Tate Martell had been given the starting nod coming out of camp, this 2019 Miami Hurricane team would have gone 11-1 and made the playoffs.

Patently untrue. The narrative was pushed on here for months and months that Lo was healthy, ready to play, would make our team better if on the field, yet the coaches simply refused to play him. Conspiracy. I asked point blank on both of those long *** threads for those suggesting that (and...

*points to post 33 above*

LOL! It's this kind of absurdity I take issue with. Tate will be 45 years old bagging groceries and some of you will still be beating the drum about his natural leadership, winning intangibles and how he has heart of a lion. Give it a rest.

Scheme? No, it's a dreadful fit for tate martell. So if by "never was given a chance" you meant he thought he was coming to a different scheme than he ultimately did, ok, I get that. But I hate this ridiculous narrative that's so frequently pushed around here that kids aren't given a chance to...

Yes, I 100% thought Jarren was a loser type for a long long time.

Man, I was so geeked that day when his waiver news broke I went and laid fifty bucks on us to win the natty. Lol not that I actually thought we would win a natty, but I beer-bonged the tate martell koolaid so hard I thought 100x1 was a good investment. Jesus christ that's awful to admit. Smh

You do realize not being put in to play in an actual game at QB and "never given a chance at QB" are not one and the same, right? We obviously didn't grab a former 5-star QB recruit off the portal with the game plan of not playing him. In fact, everything else equal, I'd argue Tate had the edge...

We're not talking about last year though, we're talking about right now.

But if that was his mindset (and by no means do we know that was the case) then he's a ******* loser type and I don't want him on our football team.

I don't care about tate martell anymore.