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Fair enough. I appreciate your civility as I am in a grouchy *** mood today! LOL This conversation has run it's course. I don't disagree with any of your points re how our coaches have failed. I simply just don't believe that 0% of blame deserves to be put on the players. Personally, I...

And if your kid brought home bad grades, I'm sure you'd immediately be on the horn with the school trying to figure out how his teacher failed him. Good lord, man, the lack of accountability is just jaw dropping. I feel like I've said this 100x already, It's BOTH the coaches AND the players...

Because you clearly have the mentality that it's everyone else's fault and zero blame whatsoever on the individual's shoulders. I mean you're even blaming a kid flipping off a downed opponent in front of a ref, or getting suspended, on coaches. WTF?!? I hope you don't have the same mentality...

Wow, just... wow. I legit hope you don't have children.

Bubba doesn't deserve blame for shanking kick after kick after kick in critical situations? Some of which were basically game winning XPs or chip shot FGs? Jeff doesn't deserve blame for deciding a ball into the end zone was going to get intercepted, so just completely quitting on the play and...

Oh I definitely understand. I just think your refusal to put ANY blame whatsoever on any of our players is foolish. Like I said initially, it's not a 100% vs 0% situation either direction; both shoulder plenty of blame this year. But whatever, happy to agree to disagree.

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So your position is that the players themselves deserve to shoulder 0% of the blame for this season? 100% of all blame and responsiblity on coaches' shoulders only? If that's the case, makes me wonder if we have been watching different games. BOTH the staff and a majority of our players have...

Dont understand why we have such a large contingent of people here who think the problem is 100% the coaches and not the players. Don't understand why we have such a large contingent of people here who think the problem is 100% the players and not the coaches. The problem is clearly both. We...