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I can respect the players LCE listed and I see the points. but the more i look at the issue, the more i think about what Dmoney said...it's more a recruiting issue than playing freshman issue. We play freshman and have played freshman. Was anyone better on our roster than Ivey last year? I...

Very much disingenuous with tour list. A much better comparison to the list you just typed would be what we do with taylor and Williams. Those guys you listed were all HIGHLY rated players coming out. I don’t disagree that Ivey should be on the bench but to compare what we do with freshman...

Count me as someone who thinks McCloud will actually have a surprisingly good year. Now i will say i hope he doesn't start or play more than situational pass rush, but i bet by the end of the year we'll all be saying, "why didn't we do this sooner with McCloud." Just my hunch