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Probably true. I think the key point for Miami is that CFB is not the NFL. We compete in college, and our players need to succeed in college.

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@RVACane

You sure made my month. Right again.

Maybe you should either flap less about things you’re not knowledgable about, or own up less defensively when you flap wrongly?

You probably also think Jimmy Graham was a better college TE than KWII Or Bubba Franks.

It’s special how you’re continuing to flail, deny and dig in. The fact that Mack Brown is a HOF coach was out there in this thread. It’s factual. You chorsed to mock it, because you didn’t know and whatever else went on in your head. You were wrong and looked dumb. No problem. It happens...

In college, Leinert was definitely better than Brady, and if you don’t understand that, you’re really cognitively challenged.

You’re spinning, deflecting and retreating. He was a Heisman finalist twice. neither Wayne nor Moss played on either of those teams.

This is just such a bad look for you. If you’re going to self-immolate, I suggest you do it off to the side, in a thread no one is reading.

That’s probably a misunderstanding in part, and a mis-framing of the discussion in part. In terms of judging an overall team against some other team from another era where they obviously can’t play each other, it’s just speculation. The better assessments of that UM team also look at the...

I would think Howell is in front and the other guy is on his knees behind him eating the bee’s nest.

I think people just don’t understand the qb position. Or maybe cfb at all. It’s not a minor league nfl prep program. At least, that’s not what matters to UM. The NFL has its own needs, different resources and solution sets. Folks think the nfl proves who was better in college. It’s absurd...

‘Not elite.’ First-team All-American (2002) 2× Heisman Trophy finalist (2001, 2002) 2× Archie Griffin Award (2001, 2002) 2× NCAA Quarterback of the Year (2001, 2002) 2x Chic Harley Award (2001, 2002) Maxwell Award (2001) BCS National Championship (2001)

:sideeyes: The man is literally in the CFB HOF. Literally.

That’s interesting. Reggie Wayne, Santana Moss and Roscoe Parrish weren’t on the ‘01 team. KWII caught 2 passes that year.

Was Tom Brady a better college QB than Vince Young?

If you watched him and those teams, you wouldn't write what you wrote. His football IQ, decision-making and leadership were key to those teams. The coaching (Coker) was awful. We had one good WR also, not some deep WR set. The teams had a lot of talent but without Dorsey, we'd have lost a...

No offense but what you wrote is idiotic. Did you even watch Dorsey?

Once again, Gino Torretta was a 2x NC, won the Heisman Trophy, the Davey O’Brien Award, The Unitas Award, The Maxwell Award, and the Walter Camp Award. Consensus AA, and is in the CFB Hall of Fame. Basically as decorated as any player in CFB History to that point. If you don't know about...