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Eh, it’s not as black and white as you say. There are culturally persistent aspects of UM football, more than you believe. That’s why manny goes with chains and talks swag. Not that it’s smart, but it’s clear evidence he identifies those things with Um culture and wants to connect with it...

While I don't disagree with your observations, I'd note that recruiting is game theory - you don't just get to have the kids you want. You have competitors recruiting the same kids for their needs. IMO we have over-focused on a size prototype at CB that's rare enough that the SEC takes those...

Great response. Agree with all of this. I focused on a few positions where we seem to have ‘systematic error,’ not just bad evals. I didn’t mention ST for two reasons. First, because we’ve evaluated well enough and had a history of good safeties before and after him, and second because ST...

Golden was somewhat different. I agree and already mentioned that dorito’s LB evals were better and different from what we’ve seen from manny. Golden’s wr evals were pretty bad and somewhat similarly flawed in that toughness and ball skills weren’t prioritized as much as some other traits. He...

No offense taken, just a discussion. My first example was how Wilfork biased our DT recruiting under Coker. That's the same HC so obviously different from your response. W/re AJ, I mentioned Leggett and Jolla as follow-ups, both Coker also. Same point. Re DJ, it's a more long-term issue in...

Good comment. Don’t think we’ve done that well enough. But is love of football the same as love of competition? Or drive? Do tjey love the grind? Working out? Playing hoops, or poker? Some guys will compete at anything. Jordan, e.g. Pete Rose. Other guys, may love the game but aren’t...

I have seen too many people get captured by their own bureaucracies in all walks of life from govt to business to church and charities, to believe that every new coach is unaffected by UM’s history. These guys all came here because of our past. They all have our past stars come back to talk to...

This is exactly the conversation I was trying to have. Also adding that a few of the positions we have struggled with the most have been skewed by us seemingly chasing the wrong types of kids. And maybe just that we generally lose kids we should get when they deviate from our spec even if...

It’s a fair response, except culture and lore have independent existence. There have been miami guys on staff all the way through. Players return. I don’t have an answer but on the other hand, the idea that evals are clean canvas fresh each year isn’t true either. We’ e had our types of...

Not sure if you see what I'm getting at based on your response. I get that these guys are almost impossible to find. That's my point. They're examples of guys who we shouldn't be trying to recruit to replace, but probably have tried to do this in the past, and in the process have messed up...

I don’t think it was a mold issue in terms of big/tall. Payton, Sayers, Dorsett Weren’t big guys. That was an era where coaches didn’t really negotiate with kids. Faulk was from New Orleans. Bunch a SEC programs were prolly used to ‘whatever, just come here and we’ll figure it out.’ For...

Faulk was just a mistake by everyone. He wasn't an 'era' issue, IMO. He was a RB then and now. He cold have been a DB then and now. He could have been a WR then and now. There are some things that change with time, but there are also biases that staffs have and molds they recruit to fill...

I don't think we've had this issue at safety. Maybe because while ST was a mold breaker athletically, he had all the ball instincts of anyone who ever played the position. We've always had bugaboos at CB, but it's not really a reaction to particular guys, I don't think. More of just quirky...

Reading another thread got me thinking to whether we've had some guys over the years who distorted the prototype our staff recruited for at their position. Examples: - Vince Wilfork - not the typical UM 3 tech. Was so good. Coker then tried to recruit more big NG types. Abdullah and Dixon...