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Break it into pieces. UNC. Then Clemson. Then others. Clemson isn’t Alabama when it comes to talent. We’re far off from them but further far off from Alabama.

This is basically what I have been saying for ages. Alabama is a red herring. Focus on winning the Coastal, then the ACC, then worry about Alabama and OSU. 80% of the last mile is qurterback, anyhow. The other 20% is OL/DL.

You know, just thinking about this topic, the important question is really avoided here. Are we supposed to be building to compete with Alabama, or with the rest of CFB. Because if we think we are trying to recruit to beat 2020 Alabama, it's going to bias us in ways that may be...

This is the important point. Do not chase measurables. Let that follow. Ray Lewis wasn't the biggest or fastest LB. Ed Reed wasn't particularly big or fast at all for a safety. Warren Sapp was once a TE. We need better evaluations. Yes, we should be in it for better athletes, whether...

It’s like arguing with your wife. You can’t concede because you’ll just begin in a deficit the next time around.

Jaquan was not a role player. He was a stamdout. If we have better standouts, great. Lets go get them. Jaquan was not only very good, he was very smart with great football instincts. Plenty of higher ceiling athletes lack Jaquan’s football IQ. More Jaquans would help us.

I’ve been pointing out for 2 decades our talent was an issue. We havent had a position player All American in over a decade. We had more elite talent in the ‘70s. And our first rounders the past decade haven’t performed all that well, either. The last significant NFL player we peoduced was...

Your point is silly because you began it by crapping on the type of guys who we need more of to compete at a high level. Obviously we need more talent overall and the type of experienced talent that can keep young guys in sub roles as true frosh. That's not a remotely interesting point. We...

If your point is we should recruit better QBs than we've had the past 20 decades, who do you think disagrees? Of course we should. But that's an evaluation issue. If your point is we should recruit different types of QBs ... we've tried, and gotten the evals wrong across the board. We've...

Wilfork didn’t start on tjat team. Taylor was a true frosh special teams player. Rolle a backup too. Jaquan as an upperclassman would have been a starter in that secondary.

We’re done, you sound like a 12 year old. You think the game is so different that we won’t see heisman qbs who arent great nfl prospects any more? Gino Toretta would by the best QB we have had since ... Get this - GINO TORETTA. If your understanding of football is such that we should look...

Thank you. And surrounded by those guys, he'd not just have started. He'd have made plays everywhere. If we could only have more guys like Jaquan, we'd be so much better off. I've been yelling about evals for 20 years. Jaquan was a good eval. Find me guys like that. Of course we all...

You're lost in the type of NFL Hype that we've seen in past threads here. It's pointless. 2001 Miami had 19 first round picks, by the way. In any case, the idea that Jaquan would ever be the 8th best guy on defense because other guys got drafted higher is crazy and dead wrong to me. He was a...

LMAO. In real life, college teams do not get to trade players like that. So yes, you are playing fantasy here. You're talking about the NFL. I don't give an eff about that. I'm interested in MIAMI winning in college. JJ's deficiencies for the NFL didn't hold him back from being a great...

You’re playing fantasy football in this discussion. Do we need some guys better than low round picks somewhere to win a title? Of course. But you have 22 places to put them. The issue for us is what is around them. Not a dispute about whether they must be at safety or not. If our guys are...

No offense but i 100% disagree with you. We do not need to be 2001 Miami to compete with Alabama. Clemson has two titles with a mix of solid players and nfl players and great quarterbacking. Jaquan Johnson is much better than some of the guys who suited up for Clemson. You’re just not right...

The thing is, those guys are really good. We can beat alabama with guys like that. We cannot heat Alabama with the OL, WRs, QBs and LBs we’ve had the past decade.

Disagree. Jaquan was a second team AA and Redwine a very good player. I’m not saying they’re ST and Antrel, but talents like those guys are in fact what will help us be competitive with Alabama.

GNC?

Agreed. But the important decisions aren’t what we want, they’re the actual choices we make. How do we trade off big vs fast vs skilled vs inner dawg. Everyone wants the easy choices but careers are made on the hard ones.