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He was an 'up n coming' coach growing into OC role ... that was the view. Richt was the play-caller. Not dissimilar to the arguments spread around our defensive position coaches today. And hey, not necessarily wrong. Just because it didn't work out with Brown doesn't mean it won't with these...

People were once pretty excited about brown around UM. But they knew enough not to call him an OC.`It’s not a knock at Williams to point this out. It’s just a reality check for the folks who claim we have 5 DCs running around the building.

Co-dc is to dc as vice president is to president, at least most of the time. Thomas brown was Richt’s ‘co-oc’ iirc.

Here are some stats to consider: YPP combining 1st, 2d downs. That’s what you face at third down. 3rd down %. That’s did you get a fresh set of downs. 3rd down YPP - that picks up big plays. Redzone metrics (points and tds) Points per game Points per opponent possession % of opponent...

That cannot be right ‘without question,’ because it’s incredibly easy to show how you can have a lower yards per play and get gashed and someone else has a higher yards per play and stops drives. Third downs mean a lot. Set 1: 15 yard first down, 3 yard run, 5 yard pass completion, 1 yard run...

Football doesn’t have a control variable other than W/L, and that itself is a function of D, O, team, situation, opponents. So all these metrics give you some insight but they do not answer the question and folks who want them to are just staring too hard into the crystal ball. There are...

they’re not. you can have different numbers of plays per possession. same for down set. also - bad third downs extend possessions and add yards. you can look great on first and second but if you don’t get it done on third, you’re going to struggle as a D. YPP on third isn’t the right Q...

You bring up some great points. Yards per possession would seem to be a more useful stat. Yards per down set also.

Yep. The quote you posted is revealing, but it’s the opposite phenomenon from what the QP mentions. The people trying to prove they’re right are the super-fans who cannot tolerate independent thought or critique. The people critical of manny don’t even want to be right. Fans who spend this...

I think manny didn’t take recruiting seriously (nor did richt) and that included not managing his CB coach and the overall process effectively. I don’t think it’s that he cared less - i mean, he **** the bed completely at LB and that was his own responsibility. I think he just didn’t engage...

Im not even sure it was all evals (tho it was partly that). Manny wasn’t known as a recruiter before UM and he did nothing as DC to change that view. He simply under-recruited (lack of effort and focus) at LB and DB, in particular. And DL recruiting was better because those guys were richt...

On the other hand, manny had the luxury of playing with golden recruits at db and lb. baker unfortunately was stuck with manny’s recruits and the talent level dropped noticeably.

I keep reading this in comments, but have no idea where it comes from. Banda’s been with Diaz his whole career, and just got an upgrade to DC job. You don’t think Diaz trusted him? Baker is an experienced DC who goes way back with Manny and they’re close. You don’t think Manny trusted him...

Try harder if you’re trying to troll. Or try harder if you’re trying to emgage.

Agree completely. When you see the consistency of poor game planning, play calling and execution that this program has, you know it’s not just one thing or one coach. It’s an overall cultural issue. I wouldn’t underestimate the consequence of lack of effective roster talent on the overall...

You claim to be talking numbers but you sound like you‘re responding emotionally to what you imagine other posters to think or feel. I was told for 20 years we couldn’t discuss evaluations because our coaching was the ’real issue.’ Now people finally seem to realize evals matter, too. We can...

The problem with all of this effort to compare DCs is it’s got a fundamental denominator error. The measuring stick for a DC isn’t all plays or all games. It’s how’d you do in games against tough opponents, and particularly, in critical instances in those games. Did you game-plan and...

It’s not that simple. An aggressive upfield D against an overmatched team athletically could certainly make a QB look relatively bad. That doesn’t tell us much about the DC, though. Because Miami has maybe 3 games a year against comparable teams athletically/physically, but the scheme doesn’t...

The people who say they trust numbers don’t even understand them. It’s that simple. The symbol 2 isn’t anything by itself. Numbers are symbols. Graphics that represents an idea. 2+2=4 isn’t significant, it’s just definitionally true. Math is a language. A scoring and relating system. But...

I haven’t said numbers don’t matter, so you may misunderstand. The issue is which numbers, why, what context and what are you trying to learn or conclude. And what do you understand about them and their context. Those are analytic topics. I understand numbers well enough to recognize that...