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stoutland was the best coach of any sort we’ve had here in 20 years. he left us to go to alabama. saban hired him. he’s in the nfl today. i referred to kehoe as washed up, meaning second time around. i actually think he got sloppy and weak under coker but i wasn’t going that far back.

i’ve been yelling about our ol for ages. it’s been wildly neglected, with poor recruiting and terrible evals for the most part. kehoe was actually a lot better than the clown shows since, and that’s scary because i thought he was washed up by the time he came back.

First, it's better than the alternative for us. If Zion as a third year player doesn't sound good to you, think about Zion as a true frosh. The solution to all this takes time. Better evals, better recruiting, better roster management, better player development. That takes years. And Zion...

Sure. It's never one thing alone. But those things matter a lot, and they correlate to the other issues. When you have depth, maturity and experience, you have age and usually more disciplined execution.

correct. been saying this for ages. depth and maturity are huge issues for us.

Their D is going to violate some laws by what they do to OL.

So your conclusion is we should keep doing the same failed things over and over, because their roster is better than ours?

Note that when we've discussed roster talent, evals and nfl stats over the years, I've consistently pointed out that it's effective roster in a given season you have to look at, not biased by some kid who ends up in the nfl years later. This was my point. Depth, maturity, competition in...