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Pope never OV'd to Bama so hard to make this claim. They had interest early on. But like others have noted, they express interest in lots of guys early on. He committed here and they moved on. Not clear to me that's an example of us beating them out for a contested kid. They also signed a...

A lawyer walks into a bar and orders a boilermaker. The bartender hands him his drink. The lawyer says 'that's not a boilermaker.' The bartender said 'yes it is ... and I know, because I'm a bartender.' The lawyer responds 'cute.'

Probably fair but that was like 1 year into the saban regime.

Hard to say we beat them for hall as iirc he didn’t official there. saban flew in to see him in the spring but they had lots of offers out in the spring. we all think we beat them for him but they recruit to the wire. thomas yes, sounds right to my recollection. i think they would have taken...

Here's a depressing eval observation for the day: Best I can tell, we haven't graduated a significant NFL player since Jimmy Graham, and we haven't graduated a significant NFL player who was recruited to play football here since the Calais Campbell draft. In the decade+ since, we've had some...

Alabama does offer a lot of kids, which is one reason why I dislike the discussions around here about how we stole so and so from Alabama. It's rarely true. They take 25 kids a year. Their offers don't mean they will take a kid. However, they do have a good eye for talent, and so while I...

Those kids camped with Golden! His problem was he was not good at all at evals, or they'd never have been offered. Also Vernon Davis, Jontavious Carter, D'Mauri Jones, that fullback who was awful, plenty of kids. Brendan Loftus, who he took, you had really knowledgeable FL HS types saying no...

This is false and crazy. You’re wildly off base on the ranking services. Your eval process should likely consider most local kids they identify. It shouldn’t be biased by them. they’re little more than popularity contests. They are directionally correct because when a lot of schools chase a...

As a recruiter, or more generally? IMO he’s showing that effort and optimism and excitement and seeming ambitious can up the recruiting at UM. That is good news, but it should really embarrass this program, because it’s easy and obvious a there’s no excuse for doing worse. Now it wears off if...

Yep. Happens every cycle. It's why you can't give out all your spots before senior year. It's also why kids get dropped. It's an uncertain business predicting the future, but when you're talking about teenagers and what they'll become, it's really uncertain. The idea that the internet or...

Guys 'blow up' as seniors these days just like they always have. That's real life, real kids, same reasons. If the ratings services don't notice or adapt, oh well. There are always going to be kids who grow late, change positions, had injuries, had to wait for their chance, didn't start out...

I certainly don't want to argue with you about that team and moment. And I agree re Alvarez's scheme - already noted that didn't fit UM. But everything I know about management and leadership says Alvarez > Coker all day every day (and Alvarez > Alfraud obviously). Would Alvarez have botched...

Not sure what your real argument is but if I read you correctly, I wholly disagree. Plenty of QBs go under the radar. It's a tough position to evaluate. You're not doing math right if you point to some 5* kids and say that proves 5* kids or evals generally. We don't sign more than 1-2 5*...

I understand the question and kudos to D for responding. It just always grated me a bit that some folks (not saying you) wanna blame the kids for that decision and the ones that came after it, when it's 1000% clear that the failures at UM were a result of bad decisions (and lack of commitment)...

I guess my point is you don't have to be a good evaluator of coaching to understand basic managerial decision-making. Coker wasn't qualified and the only reason he was considered was because of a player revolt. That alone should have been enough for Dee to make the call differently. As for...

The more I think about it, the more I think the Ray Lewis anecdote is the perfect example of what fans today do not understand. Ray was an undefeated state champion wrestler at 183. He wasn’t some secret. He was not qualified, poor, undersized, small program. Kids like that slip through the...

It’s unfair to those kids to even ask the question like that. Dee was a professional manager who should have known better. These were college kids. They won their title with coker anyhow. What sort of regrets are they supposed to have?

Agreed, just pointing out the recruit off list mentality. For all his flaws, DE was a real coach who got hired twice by nfl teams. Coker was just there when butch quit.

Rousseau was an obvious athletic eval for anyone who watched film. He was a physical projection who worked out. Some do, some don’t. We found him relatively early, also. Herbert was overrated, imo. It was obvious back then. Evaluating OL isn’t easy but if nothing pops off the screen at...

There’s a really important point in here. Folks talk about rankings like final rankings mean something. But it’s irrelevant, because if you’re not recruiting a kid by his junior year, in most cases, forget about it. That’s kind of the point of evals. Find them first. Trust your assessment...