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We’re aligned. A bad process will lead to bad results. A good process will still fail without competent people. You need both.

Yes but you’re ignoring the importance of process in saying that. Complex organizations need well designed processes to achieve results effectively. Simply having a process is better than not, I guess. But it’s not enough. And good processes will beat good individual decision-makers over time.

We agree on that. I have not suggested it’s a bad eval. I asked about process - this is a topic I have mentioned before and am increasingly interested in given the mounting evidence that bad evals are a key piece of our two decade decline. Without a good process, evals are a crap shoot. I...

Spoken like a guy that has little time or interest in evaluations. Do we have a process for vetting evaluations? Did we follow it? We have a new OC - did we hire him because of his evaluation skills? How did we link in position coach and head coach sign-off? Does Manmy even take evaluations...

It sounds like we may disagree here. I think the more important advantage locally is regarding evaluations, not ‘selling’. That advantage is heightened when other coaches with less access and knowledge and relationships cannot gather new information. That helps us locally and hinders us away...

I do remember. You were one of the views that influenced my perspective. Edit: i have learned over a long time on this and other sites who knows what they’re talking about and when to listen. Gogeta is on the list, in part because he measures his comment, doesn’t have a view on everyone, and...

Sure, it's different locally and nationally -- but that just highlights the benefit of local. Local kids already know the school, area, many of the kids, often coaches and former players. We almost certainly know their teammates, coaches, maybe relatives. These things help with assessment and...

Thanks. If I had time to look further into this, I’d really like to expand the definition of ‘local’ to Orlando and South. I’d also note that non-local kids coming to our camp should help us evaluate (if we know how to evaluate). Also, some non-local schools can become pipelines where you...

LCE, putting this in a separate response because it’s just about specific kids.... These were different evaluation failings. Herbert was the most obvious. He wasn’t good. People read too much into an injury and projected him beyond it. He was highly rated for whatever reason, probably camp...

Of course you do. It means two things: first, evals are inherently uncertain, so there are no guarantees, and second, we have not been particularly good at them, compounding the issue. Location doesn’t ‘dictate’ ability to evaluate, but it is incredibly relevant to it. It defines the amount of...

This is an important point. I haven’t done the research on it but it feels true to me. It’s also ties to a view you and I have been advocating for ages. Go national for top kids or certain need areas where we have needs we can’t fill locally, but do not — I repeat do not — chase sleepers...

I disagree. It’s obviously easier to evaluate local kids. You have more data and more access, generally over a longer period of time. You often know family and many coaches. Just because it’s harder to evaluate far away kids doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it. It does mean you need to have a...

No, not at all, you’re just a dense childish clown trying to look for a ghost or create a dispute where there is none. My comment was pretty straight forward and logical. If you aren’t interested in how the staff makes it’s decisions, I suggest you just go on about your time here and don’t...

We’ve had some good TEs. The people who evaluated most of them are not around any longer. We know Manny’s recruiting process is suspect. I think this kid looks like a nice prospect, but as far as I’m concerned, questions about how they decide what they decide are fair game with this staff...

You sure sound salty. I didn’t say anything negative. If you’re not wondering how we evaluate a non-local kid during a recruiting dead period caused by covid, you’re not even thinking. I said he looked like a nice prospect, so we’ll see whether he was a good eval. We do know that our evals...

Youre missing my point. There’s some film, sure. But we can’t travel or meet with him or his coaches, no spring ball, no recent camps ... it’s a lot harder right now than normal times. And it’s harder to evaluate non-local kids than local kids even during normal times.

That's certainly part of any explanation, but evals require a process involving the position coach and HC, also. Hopefully Manny's making some progress in that area.

My question is how we evaluate a kid from far away given the covid environment. He hasn't been to campus, either. Hoping Lashlee's relationships here helped. He looks like a nice prospect.