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I am cautiously optimistic also. But I am a fan. Rationally, our program has stunk for ages. No reason to expect magic.

’Not a stretch’ isn’t the same as baseline expectation. I never said it was a ‘stretch’ to think we ‘could’ do better. Given our past 15 years we could do worse, too. Richt won a lot of games in the SEC and stunk it up here. Manny has never coached a game at this level. I expect better...

What about what went wrong the year before that? Or the one before that? We have been better than 8-4 how many times in the past 15 seasons? 8-4 is a fair prediction. Manny has to deliver for anyone other than a fan to expect better.