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  1. Ethnicsands

    Offseason OT: All time starting 11

    Vilma played inside at UM. And Darrin Smith was better as an OLB at UM than Armstead (armstead had a serious injury interfere with his UM career). D. Smith was also that fastest of all of them. Maybe the fasted Lb ever at UM.
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    How can you leave dan morgan off this list?
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    That is fair.
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    Offseason OT: All time starting 11

    LMAO @ Jaquan. Blades aside, have you heard of darryl williams? And no lewis at LB? The best defensive player in the history of football has a spot on our starting 11.
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    We played a 4-3 for the era that gave us this discussion. I see no reason to engineer a different outcome for one guy. But that aside, who would you omit? We have a 4x all pro, 5x pro bowler in jessie armstead and no one even mentions him in this thread. Lewis is the GOAT. Morgan the most...
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    That Blades may deserve a starting S spot isn’t disputable. But contending he deserves a CB spot because we just don’t like the tough decision at S doesn’t do much for me. The debate is what is interesting. He wasn’t a CB at Miami.
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    Taylor’s was worse. who was it? derrick strait? taylor had the most dominant year at S anyone has ever seen in cfb. and they give the award to nobody.
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    Both got screwed. taylor was screwed worse because he was every bit as good as reed but lost to a worst guy.
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    Honestly, love Irvin but he gets the halo because of culture and swag and titles. At Miami and Dallas. And maybe he deserves it. But in the field, not sure. Irvin was as tough as any WR you have ever seen. But Wayne and AJ ....
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    I disagree.
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    The thing is, Ray Lewis is the single best defensive player of all time, any position, any level. And the best leader ever in the sport of football, at least on defense. The No. 1 pick on défense on an open draft for all players ever. Just observing that the best defensive player in the...
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    Good response. Wayne / AJ is tough. AJ really had a better career but on a worse team, and without the longevity. If AJ played with Manning, we might be talking about him really differently. He likely gets the HOF anyhow, or is the toughest omit they will have, given his forst team all pro...
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    I personally believe ST was the most dominant S ever in cfb and the most talented athlete I have ever seen on the defensive side of the ball, any level. Maybe Deion is there too. Those would be my top 2, except Deion didn’t like to mix it up. But Taylor went pro after 3 years. So open Q as...
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    Bennie Blades was a 2x first team all american, Thorpe Award winner and is in the CFB Hall of Fame. He also holds the UM single season interception record (shared with ST). I personally think ST was the best college safety I ever saw, but I cannot fault someone who puts Ed Reed and Bennie...
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    That’s a good list, honestly. Not sure I agree on wayne vs. AJ but it’s close. I think Cooper and Harrah belong at OL over Myers and Carey. Morgan has to be on the LB list, imo. In addition to college, he was all rookie and nfl all pro before injury. I’d put Rolle over Marion also. 3x pro...
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    They are both on my list!
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    Yes, Mira. Also Brophy.
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    Erickson is in there.
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    Made my list
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    Offseason OT: All time starting 11

    Canton: Hendricks, Otto, Kelly, Irvin, Kennedy, Sapp, Lewis, Reed Rafters*RIP: Brown, Taylor Canton, comin: A. Johnson, Edge, Wilfork, Wayne, Gore CFB Legends: Be. Blades, D. Morgan, McKinnie, Maryland, Searcy, E. Brown, Foreman, Kosar, Testaverde, Toretta, Walsh, Dorsey, Hester Next (no...
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