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And Ezzard. That was the guy we actually took over Moore.

Effin sin we didn’t take him.

I'll never forget Shannon calling a couple guys butt buddies in a presser. One of the great moments in sports history.

Richt had three classes as HC. In '16, he signed 7 guys 4* or better on Rivals. 3 were gone from the roster quickly (Bruce, Mullins, Allison) and a 4th got injured (Richards). So he had 3 to work with. That's way too few and set the roster back a lot. In '17, he brought in 10 4* or better...

Here's what I got for Richt's classes. 4/5* kids from Rivals, to be consistent. Some observations: hit or miss evals. '16 and '17 left a real roster hole for going forward, which I suspect played into Richt's decision to quit. Very few top defenders recruited. '18 was actually a very solid...

Here's what I found for Golden. My take-away is he wasn't as bad as I have said at evaluating solid prospects. I think his far bigger issue was taking too many bad 3* kids. It's still an eval failure but it's a different assessment. The bad evals below don't look systematic to me. Grimble...

Here's what I got for the Randy era evals, '07 - '10. Kids who were 4/5* on Rivals. I think Randy had a better feel for kids and fewer totally blown evals than Coker but also took too many kids who weren't going to fit in or try hard, which is every bit as rough as bad evals. You can...

Rousseau was a tough eval because you could see his athletoc potential but not clear how kt would translate to DE. New positions amd kids still growing into their bodies can be tricky projections. Diaz as a LB evaluator, year, no bueno.

So your new position is you’re not defensive of the staff. Great. Welcome to reality.

That’s even worse than a black book. It’s like the mods are memorizing this stuff! I don’t even recall the names of the posters I get into blah blah with, unless they get all triggered and follow me around disliking posts reflexively. But that’s rare, and just a sign someone is triggered.

Do you guys keep a little black book?

Yeah you could just tell watching that recruiting cycle richt or dugans or both didn’t want moore, they kept looking for alternatives.

Whose narrative is this? You folks say stuff like this, when the reality is you’re the ones out here claiming the staff’s decisions are beyond questioning. As far as good evaluators getting it wrong, okay, sure. But why write that? Do you think our staffs hsve been good at evalusting the...

I recall the comment. You weren’t down on moore. Question was really moore or ezzard for the fourth spot.

Are you throwing shade at gogeta or just white knighting for the staff as usual?

I went and found the thread. Started reading it. Made it halfway through and everyone seemed to like Richards a lot. Best take from one of our best posters: .

Bump it if you can. It's not how I recall it but I haven't looked back since he was signed. Also, I'd pay no attention to the random fans saying this or that. Focus on the guys who know local RB or have developed a reputation for being knowledgeable or well studied on recruiting topics.

Re our evals on elite kids, here's what I found for Coker (going back to '02, which is all I can get on Rivals). His top rated kids (4 or 5* on Rivals) by class. I know it's been a while since Coker, will get to the more recent ones, started here. If you want to know what happened to this...

IIRC Richt liked the GA kid (Ezzard) more. Mighta been a Richt thang.

I agree with some of this. I've been critical of Manny for being reactive. SEC programs are definitely focusing on So Fla kids from early on. We shouldn't be late to the party in our own back-yard. I know it's not 100% late 100% of the time, but we've clearly had too many situations where...