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That's why I suggested the UCF board for people who want to talk about Randy Shannon. He's been gone for a decade. Move on. I know Al Golden is certainly revered here.

Randy Shannon is the DC at UCF now. I'm sure have a message board.

Yes, I was just using the ratings as an example of two similarly talented kids who play the same position. I 100% agree that the recruiting sites are for the fans and that no coach worth a **** trusts 247's talent evaluations over his own.

This. Any class with 15 four star players and 2 five star players is a top level class. Classes are not ranked just because of sheer volume, you have to have a huge volume of highly rated players. Signing 35 3 star players won't put you anywhere near the top of the list. There's two major...