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No. That is the reward. The reward is that IF he comes back, improves and stays healthy he may be rewarded as a first round selection. Things aren’t equal, we already know how Brown performed this past season. Those 4.8 spots are given to those who deserve them (both in performance and...

TC, No matter what side you take on this argument; it comes down to risk. That is why I wanted to know whether or not a 22 YO (over a 21 YO) will be drafted significantly lower. Since it comes down to risk; you need to include both rounds because by coming back someone could do worse (this is...

Are you saying he can't improve at all? Are you saying he can't play like he did his freshman year? Possibly but the data doesn't show that there is a significant difference in waiting. That is the point.

I am not the one that asked for that or made that claim. You made that claim here. I never asked about that. I don't care about that either. I have consistently asked for the same thing. I just asked for data showing a 22 YO (over a 21 YO) will be drafted significantly lower. I NEVER said...

Yes. Two people. You're side is two people. Unless you're talking to people off the board? Are you talking to people off the board? Should I count the people who upvote my posts? Does that matter? Do you care?

Every single player? [Keep in mind we don't know what will happen with the 2018 draft yet in terms of earning a contract] 2017 Draft Nigel Williams-Goss (Gonzaga) Jonah Bolden (UCLA) Jaron Blossomgame (Clemson) These guys were playing in America. They were drafted after playing in America...

I am not. I just don't think it was the best decision. You disagree, big deal. They're opinions. The statistics that show that there is no significant difference. I haven't ignored them. A difference of 4 spots. 4 spots. Remember, educate "your self".

Remember boys and girls... No it just shows you can't read.

So you can't read. The point has been the same the whole time. That is comical by the way... Educate "your self".

Again reading. All I said is that there is "There is no guarantee he makes the NBA this year." So, if he goes to Europe, that would be an example of not being in the NBA. Please learn to read.

There is no guarantee he makes the NBA this year. If he gets a contract then perhaps he can do all of that.

Wow. You really would benefit from a reading comprehension class. You're the one that said 5 years is TOO long. Here is your post... That was you above. TC suggested 5 years with his data. You said 5 years is too long (to me). TC suggested it. You told me it was too long. I have everyone...

Either you don't know what that means or you can't read.

This is beyond a waste of time. You're not even arguing the opposite side, you're just pivoting. Can you stick to what is actually asked? 1. This is incorrect, as I already explained. If you wanted to prove that a 22 YO has less of a chance of getting drafted PERIOD or only the first...

Separate question (to anyone that cares, which may be no one). Let's ignore any and all data, let's just look at what happened. 1. You will be 22 YOs before the next draft. 2. You missed a large % of games after your solid freshman season. 3. You regressed. 4. Your injury was not...

Just so you know: 1. The poster's own data demonstrated there was NO significant difference. Here is that post... Are you aware they only show a difference of 4 spots in the average draft position between a 21 YO v. 22 YO. You saw that right? 4 spots? Did you notice that it was ONLY 4 spots...

This is what I was pushing the whole time. I want to know average draft position.

This is my last post unless you come up with the data to support your claim. You can go on a tangent, diatribe or whatever but even your own data shows a difference of 4 spots. 1. The rules have been the same for the NBA draft since 2006. 2. Even if you think 5 years is too long; your tiny...

You tried. You couldn’t do it (at least so far). Those stats (second round) are not meaningless because the point is whether or not there is a significant difference between a 21 and 22 YO and their drafted position. The sad part is Brown had a “crappy” season, perhaps if he had a solid season...

You proved, via a small sample, that there is no significant difference in drafted position. Also, to show that he had a higher % chance of being drafted (anywhere) you would need to show a different stat. You would need to show how many are drafted (at either age) and how many entered the...