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And what was different between those two games and the previous 15 or so?

I didn't see those games; did you? He has a new QB and I know that could mean something.

I don't know about the roster in comparison to the rest of the PAC12, but I know Mario benefited from a 4-yr starter at QB who could be rookie of the year in the NFL. Mario's record was 21-6 coming of a PAC12 Championship before this COVID-impacted season where he went 4-3 with a new QB...

That's intellectually dishonest. If you agree Mario recruits better than Manny and Golden, but believe both could succeed if they weren't married to ****** DCs; how could you **** on Mario if he brought a quality staff?

****, the Mario hate is real. Herbert is a tremendous talent and it's hard to make up for that.