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My only piggyback on this take is...we don't take these guys, they ball out elsewhere, and we are here with some mid and we are a mid type program. Maybe...hear me out...if we actually got these guys, we wouldn't be mid. I don't think players would come down to our level, IMO, I think these...

Some of the evaluations aren't even that difficult. I mean, 4-star linebackers...4-star cornerbacks...like, some no brainer real offers. These are players with legitimate Power 5 offers, too. These are not mystery players. And before people say "so and so was offered!!!" ... "offering"...

You n I have been pounding the table on this topic in unison for years now, it seems. Miami MUST do a much better job evaluating the talent they have available locally. D$'s recent post on the number of All-Americans(!!!!) that Miami did not legitimately offer was jarring. If you look around...

Mark Pope was a high 4-star player based on projection and its regarded as a good take because he was a high 4-star player...but its beyond some here to say that Tutu Atwell was misevaluated because decision makers did not actually project him, yet he was the county player of the year winning a...

re: "The Offer Bump" https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/2/3/7972129/alabama-recruiting-bama-bump-ratings-rankings It definitely exists, your mileage may vary on the minutiae of the topic. re: Atwell versus the field All of those players stink, man. I don't care if...

re: The Recruiting Services -- They piggyback offers. This isn't some revelation or anything, and I know you know this...so Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia wouldn't really be uncovering a slew of 3-stars anyway, because most of their players are getting that bump. That isn't to say they don't...

Your whole post, and I guess overall point is based on the recruiting services and their rankings. I think they grossly misevaluate the wide receiver position (especially in South Florida...I won't speak on the rest of the country, but I'd hypothesize worse) and ultimately make this whole...

@TheOriginalCane I didn't mention anything about the academic players in my rebuttal. You agreed with me, and I just left it at that. When I say you are missing the forest for the trees, it's based on you nitpicking ratings and "misremembering" aspects about certain players versus the...

You're missing the forest for the trees. The point is, the services misevaluate players down here and the players from the area that have gone on to play in the NFL by at large were misevaluated by both the services and much of the higher end of the Power 5. You can list every excuse you want...

Just an aside, since you and I have discussed this among ourselves before...but if you look at the best WRs that have come from here in recent vintage...very few of them have been highly rated. Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley, Jerry Jeudy...sure. But Antonio Brown, TY Hilton, John Brown, Hollywood...

People on this very forum knew Tutu Atwell was a stud. Tutu's own coach said Miami didn't even consider him at WR - and didn't even ask according to the article - and that Tutu himself was open to WR and was being offered as a WR by those other schools (including Louisville). You can write a...