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Agreed. We can get excited when they reach Sam Howell and Kenny Pickett level!

Not blaming Kaaya. Just not getting overly excited about QBs in shells from Joe Z because well fool me once..

when people talk about what King bring us.... it often starts with: King is the best QB we’ve had since .... Goes all the way back to maybe Dorsey, and some even discount Ken going back even further... The discussion isn’t... King is the best because of Manny’s defense - that’s for ****...

Agreed. I cited that. That doesn’t change that there is a difference between practice with no hits and a clean pocket and live action... wisdom teeth or otherwise.... and my reluctance to crown a QB until game action.

I’m not saying he was soft. I think he got his teeth knocked out against FSU, no penalty head hunt hit if I recall. It doesn’t change that what we were hearing from greentree and what ended up in the win columns on Saturdays were different. There was a ton of hype. It doesn’t all fall on the QB.

@Canesfan1899 - what’s the question? We heard about the Messiah and he was never able to lead us to the greatness proclaimed. And he was jittery in the pocket against FAU. I was at the game. The kid took some hits, and played some great games, but like other QBs here, I think I’ll keep the...

I had a few sips then remembered all Greentree Kaaya being shook against FAU when the bullets flew... grabbed bourbon instead...