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  1. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    What makes Lebron such a great player is his combination of size, speed, and talent. LeBron is a freak of nature that can ball.
  2. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    I struggle with where Brees belongs and don't know how to evaluate Unitas and Graham. Outside of Brady, some of these other guys were lucky to have loaded teams help them earn rings.
  3. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    I will take a prime Hardin over a prime Wade. Obviously Hardin needs to keep up his current pace for a few more years. I rather have Ray Allen take a game-winning shot compared to Wade.
  4. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    1) Brady 2) Montana 3) Manning 4) Unitas 5) Graham 6) Brees http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001035041/article/top-25-quarterbacks-of-all-time-patriots-tom-brady-leads-list When I look at Wade's position I look at both point and shooting. That is how the All-NBA votes.
  5. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    Obviously greatness of a player is an opinion supported by evidence. Wade was a great young player that played on some great teams. That being said, he only was 1st team All-NBA twice and that indicates that others believed other players were better. I compared him to John Smoltz who is 15 - 4...
  6. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    The NFL rates Marino as the 7th best QB of all time. Of the six better than Marino, three of them had careers in the generation after Marino. Wade is probably top 25 at his position and was never the best in the game during his career.
  7. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    My bad, I misread Kobe's total. Kobe was 1st team 11 times as you pointed out.
  8. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    All-NBA teams select 2 guards, regardless of shooting or point. Wade was 2nd team All-team 3 times, with 2 of those times Kobe being 1st team. At most Kobe cost Wade two 1st team All-NBA, and that assumes that Wade was the best guard on the 2nd team.
  9. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    Both years that Wade was 1st All-NBA so was Kobe.
  10. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    Kobe was a 1st team All-NBA 15 times. Wade was 1st All-NBA 2 times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-NBA_Team Look I didn't say the guy sucked. I compared him to John Smoltz who is an HOF pitcher. Smoltz won one Cy Young and had a playoff record of 15-4.
  11. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    Smoltz won a Cy Young so is in the HOF. Wade won a finals MVP and will be in the HOF. Both were guys that were top 15 or 20 in their sport during their time. Wade was only first-team All-NBA two times. Dwight Howard was 1st team All-NBA more.
  12. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    How so? Wade was the loyal guy, he was never the alpha dog. Wade has 0 titles if Shaq and Lebron never come.
  13. Andrew

    OT: Wade vs. Marino

    Wade is the John Smoltz of the Miami Heat. Yeah he good, but he isn't no Greg Maddux.
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