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  1. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    The other thing that these arguments about “slowing Curry down” don’t take into consideration is how much more advanced defensive schemes are now. We don’t have positional versatility in other eras like we see now. PnRs and those slow footed, physical bigs getting caught up on Curry would be a...
  2. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    All that matters. Steph Curry would have no problems in the 90s era. That's literally the argument. You conceded that he wouldn't have any problem. A one game situation is pretty irrelevant to this argument.
  3. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    That’s not the argument at all. We’re talking about consistently, not in a one game setting. This is a strawman argument.
  4. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    It’s laughable to think that John Starks “roughing him up” is going to slow down Steph Curry. Steph Curry is one of the best offensive players ever. Sure, the Knicks as a team can make him work for it, but he’s absolutely going to get his.
  5. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    Yea, I’m not sure where this notion that he’s small came from. He’s 6’3 190 lol. He’s not built like a Westbrook physically but he’s not a small guy. I think the injuries, 3 point shooting and the underdog narrative around him kind of has people jaded. His handles are crazy. It may not have the...
  6. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    Disagree with this, mostly. MCW isn’t a great athlete. He’s a tight hipped, straight line drive athlete. He’s carving a little niche out for himself right now but his best numbers were during The Process years when they literally were tanking at levels never seen before. He was probably also due...
  7. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    I disagree with both of those notions. What guys who do everything well besides shoot are being kept on the bench? Steve Nash wasn’t chucking shots, if anything, not being selfish enough was his knock. Steph Curry would’ve had no problems in the 90s. His ability to shoot transcends the game...
  8. AllAboutTheU

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    As much as teams value shooting, they historically value shot creation even more. If his theory about shooting being the prime skill needed then we the projected lotto wouldn’t look like it does. The elite guys can all shoot. You just need to be a respectable perimeter threat as a role guy.
  9. AllAboutTheU

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    Eh, Sarver went with Ayton because of the UA connection, not because he was old school. Divac seems to have some issue with Doncic’s father that clouded his judgment and will eventually cost him his job. You’re right, they stood out like a sore thumb because they didn’t pick the obviously better...
  10. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    Doesn't this go against your analysis of the emphasis being on "shooting" too? These guys went top 2, against the revolution of guards/playmakers and the two teams seemingly have worse futures due to it.
  11. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    You say that and ignore his best athletic trait, which is his quickness at his size. It’s extremely rare for a 7 footer. Not really going to get into the football field stuff because I don’t find it relevant at all to my point.
  12. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    Yes, the Admiral was in phenomenal shape. His discipline is well documented. But there’s zero chance he could stay in front of Durant. You just don’t see guys 7 feet with the hand eye coordination and lateral explosiveness that Durant has. It’s not just about a better handle. Hand eye...
  13. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    Wrong on Durant. He moves like a guard at 7 feet, laterally. What 7 feet guys do you see moving like him? That’s elite athleticism. No, you’re confusing athlete with player. Beal was a much better defender earlier in his career. He had a usage rate of 34% this year, so of course he isn’t...
  14. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    You brag about testing when it fits your narrative but then when the same guys break your narrative you downplay their athleticism. He’s got great athleticism and great skill. What’s so hard to understand about that? Brad Beal is absolutely a better athlete than Eddie Jones. You sound like you...
  15. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    Yes, players are on aggregate more skilled. That is undeniable. Athletes are also better. Even the freak athlete superstars are skilled, which is why people don’t just value having an athletic guy to build around anymore. That does not mean that guys aren’t more athletic in this era. You’re...
  16. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    Practicing 30 footers has nothing to do with who is more athletic. It’s just an added skill that’s important in this era.
  17. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    But you conveniently lean on testing when it fits your narrative. A 39 inch vertical cuts against that argument.
  18. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    You brag about testing on one hand, but when a guy has the measurements that match up with your testing qualifications, you say that he isn't a great athlete. LaVine is quick, fast, and a 40+ inch vertical. He's dunking with 2 hands from the free throw line with ease. Oladipio also had a 40+...
  19. AllAboutTheU

    OT- Have athletes gotten worse in the NBA/MLB?

    Yes, you need to have the baseline level of foot speed to stay in front of world class athletes, but there are plenty of GREAT athletes who are poor defenders. Slow footed white guys get blown by in any era. The team defensive schemes are also a lot better, and rule changes don't create the same...
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