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Yup. 2008 Clemson 4–3[A 1] 3–2 T–3rd (Atlantic) L Gator 2009 Clemson 9–5 6–2 1st (Atlantic) W Music City 24 2010 Clemson 6–7 4–4 T–4th (Atlantic) L Meineke Car Care 2011 Clemson 10–4 6–2 1st (Atlantic) L Orange† 22 22 2012 Clemson 11–2 7–1 T–1st (Atlantic) W Chick-fil-A 9 11...

I'm not-I don't think-rationalizing sloppy play. But I'm a realist in that you don't go 6-7 to 10-1 overnight (particularly when 15 opts out and camp is stunted by the rona). It sounds like both you and I agree that there are losses upcoming . . .

It's not being normalized or blessed by anyone. No one is happy about it (obviously). But, some folks have unrealistic expectations of this team and I'm not really sure why because we lost to friggin' FIU and LT last year.

Bad take. This was a 6-7 team last year with losses to FIU and LT. Only on the internet is Rome built in a day. The reality is that building a top 10 program takes time. It won't happen in 1 offseason (in particular this one given the circumstances). 8-3 would be a marked improvement. I'd be...