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Truth. It has never been about wins.

I’ve been on that train as well. It’s why I’d shy away from stroud. You know what’s crazy? Troy smith has the most nfl success of any of their QBs.

This. Collectively, I can't imagine another school is worse than OSU in terms of high profile busts at the QB position.

100%. But, I think Innis would have been ours or at least been real close if our offense was much better. Same is the case with Smith. We take care of business on offense this fall, we'll take care of recruiting.

Yeah,. agree. Staff needs to focus on landing Trader - he's a must considering Smith is osu. Not sure about Zaquan but I understand there are a lot of canes fans in his camp. @gogeta4

Correct. Yes, I know, long way to go, but The odds of getting smith are slim to none and slim is about to leave town.

Sofla kids and football culture problems start at a young age where money is being thrown at kids for joining certain teams in youth league. So yeah, a lot of these kids grow up going to the highest bidder whether it’s youth league, 7x7, HS, etc. this has gotten much worse the past 20-25 years

He’s from Ohio, though. He basically grew up in Columbus.

This is the guy you need to worry about - he's the sofla bagman. https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/coach/keenan-bailey/

I can get behind that if the kid goes to bama/uga/etc. But, when a kid commits to FSU, ATM or UL, then that argument falls apart imo. The kids are opting to get $$ and go to a disaster of a program with lame duck coaches (in many cases). How is that the best spot for the kid?

They ALL say that until they see the $$ offers.

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JJ?