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  1. grover

    All Facts IMO (SIAP)

    One of these things is not like the other: Coker (w/o Butch's kids), Shannon, Richt, Manny and Mario. The pre-Mario coaches may have had more highly rated talent on average than their opponents. But they had swiss-cheese holes across their starting 22 and 2-deep. So we'd have Olsen and Beason...
  2. grover

    All Facts IMO (SIAP)

    I appreciate many of your posts. So not attacking. But I think Dee's point is pretty obvious, that building a winning program is more nuanced than just recruiting or just developing or just calling games or just establishing culture or just hiring staff. And within every one of these inputs...
  3. grover

    All Facts IMO (SIAP)

    Posters you would expect to be optimistic are optimistic. Posters you would expect to be pessimistic are pessimistic. Shocker. Here's where I will agree with the cynics, pessimists and mopes. Mario has failed if we're 8-5 or worse. Anything less than 9 wins is unacceptable. given how much other...
  4. grover

    All Facts IMO (SIAP)

    We’ll see it this season. We’re not elite but we’re good enough across the board with a quality QB to win a lot of games. It’s not just recruiting. The upper class are talented too. Ward, Restrepo, George, Rivers, Coop, the C transfer, JHH, Mesidor, Kelly, Kiko, Wes, Porter, the S transfer...
  5. grover

    All Facts IMO (SIAP)

    Facts. Posted this in the senior bowl thread. But this is the better thread for the 2024 talent discussion. We went from 3 drafted last year to most likely 5 drafted this year to around 9 drafted in next year. One of whom is our starting QB. Meanwhile we just had our second Top 10 class. There...
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