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not debating that at all, I watched most of UW's games this year and some of last due to dating a dawg, and Penix is way better than TVD but Odunze is/was a dawg for Penix, similar to Rambo to TVD, Penix tossed quite a few balls out there where Odunze made a miraculous catch. Penix over TVD...

You could say the same about Odunze and Penix though

couldn't even make a full minute video lol