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O, CIS not ****** around in 2024.

#DEATHTOosu

But that culture doe.

So he is not the answer........

Forgot Emory da gawd.

Interesting.

O ok, you're another only watches Miami guy. Take care.

That 8-4 Clemson team is better than that fraudulent TCU team.

Not sure if you meant to tag me in this but I wasn't making argument that he sucked. The idea that he is a proven winner bothers me though because he has been inconsistent throughout his career.

Emory Williams beat Clemson 🤷🏾‍♂️.

Does the fact that he only started half the season matter?

I sure hope so. Fingers crossed we pursue a QB2.

Whats your QB1 assesment for Howard?

@Memnon Will Howard the answer?

Howard played 2 half seasons so the turnovers won't match. Ward had almost 150 more pass attempts than Howard. I think he was asked to do more from a passing perspective.

A turnover is bad regardless of how it comes. Howard has only started 2 full seasons. Both of which he compilled double digit turnovers. Ward commits more total turnovers but no one mentions the volume for Howard. If Howard was asked to carry an offense the way Ward was, he'd be in a worse...

I find it interesting people keep bringing up turnovers to discredit Ward as if Howard is some sort of savant.

How many games did Howard play in 2022? O ok.