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I thought you said I didn’t respond? Anyway, you apparently can’t read my counter argument. It’s quite clear that their history from 60 years ago is irrelevant, particularly with Hugh Freeze making the program relevant recently, the surge of the SEC in financing/recruiting, and the advent of...

Lane taught us that you don’t need to work at an airport to be fired at one.

That’s because your points aren’t worthy of conversation and need clarification. Gaining clarity of one’s point through questioning is called the Socratic method, sorry you see it as juvenile. The whole 2nd tier program, not knowing he was 8-5 last year, etc. Overall your points don’t make...

I’m a Mario bro and I’m blindly defending him? Sometimes I forget I’m probably talking to teenagers on here.

He went 8-5 last year, what do you think he’s on the verge of accomplishing?

So what you're telling me is that they're historically a 2nd tier SEC team, they are currently a 2nd tier SEC team with Kiffin, and when Kiffin leaves (and he will most certainly leave the second a better opportunity arises), they'll go back to being a 2nd tier team. I think you've convinced me...

Are they considered a top tier SEC program now?

Loads of it. I would think Kiffin worshippers would at least admit it, instead of treating him like the media treated Al Golden

Crippling sanctions? They were preseason #1 and he went 7-6. He doesn’t take over decent teams? You guys are absolutely delusional. He was fired at LAX for a reason.

Maybe, who knows, neither have won anything. Just laughable that Lane does “more with less”. It’s like they are autocorrecting Leach with Kiffin now but forgetting Lane’s had more opportunities than a rich white kid.

You’re right, he does so much more with less. Can’t wait for him to get his big break. Schools are probably chomping at the bit.

Yeah the guy who says someone who coached at USC, Tenn, Bama and the NFL does more with less. Wish I could be as informed as you.

Yeah he did a bang up job taking over Pete Carroll’s USC squads.