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Who was the starter in those games for FSU. While our guys weren’t elite they were a **** of a lot better than what FSU was trotting out there. Even with that 2017 came down to a last second throw

Elite QBs don’t win every game but they’ll get you to 10+ wins consistently. Of course provided the rest of your squad isn’t a complete soup sandwich…..which ours is not.

Rosier got a lot of bounces that year. Could have very easily been a 7 win season like it was the next year. King didn’t have some of the other issues TVD has. Also his escape ability was elite which extended plays. Consider him a poor man’s Jordan Travis. Still not elite though.

The same story over the last 20 years. If you have a very very good to elite QB in CFB you typically win much more than you lose. If you have avg to slightly above avg you are going to be a 6-8 win team. Go through the top 10 every year and tell me how many teams had avg QBs. TVD has way...