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You're right. It was the Emerald Bowl in San Francisco against Cal. We still lost 24-17.

You're right but it did. I think you're arguing about two different things. Regardless, it still should not have resulted in a loss.

Probably. At least nobody that can catch a punt.

You talking as a UM fan. You're assuming the ACC has similar interest as UM fans. They don't.

I don't think so. He was 5-7 his first year, same as Mario. And he had the advantage of being part of the previous staff so was partly responcible for the roster. He started his second year 2-3, including losses to both UF and FSU as well as UNC. Mario is 4-1. Shannon's second year ended...

Well look at the trajectory of the program. Currently, I see it trending up. Under Radio, I saw it trending down. And I saw that at the time, not in hindsight.

Why does how much he makes have anything to do with this? If he was a high school volunteer working for free it's still a dumb decision. And what does he need to say to provide you a sense of satisfaction that's he's accepted full responsibility. He's already said, "there's no way to...

You can't be serious.

I believe they know. They just don't want us to be. We just have to take it from them.