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He does, and alphas are looking for the next bigger challenge. For some reason, Aranda thought he could win big there. Nice failure, though, in trying to trap me. Maybe work on the content and not try for sick burns.

Huh. Aranda is an example of a guy who should have jumped when he had the chance.

I’ll give you the whole internet at your disposal. Show me where anyone refers to those people at any university as the “front office”.

Front office? When did we switch to talking about the NFL? A "football office" at a college is the head coach and his staff. My goodness.

That's expected, considering the source. I'll have two draft picks in next year's MLB draft, if that helps.

Yes, I do. If you think Duke went in last night just hoping to stay close, I really can't help you.

Coaching etiquette? When did that become an issue?

That's how you can judge someone's age and career. When you point out the glaring contradiction in their back-to-back posts, their response is "K, Bye". Not exactly an esteemed scholar, are we.

Great response. Very thoughtful.

Why did you change your statement? Beating Clemson at home in September is not the same as winning a Natty. If you have to change that quickly, maybe your original point was pretty bad.

This is absolutely not true. Good lord. Coaches are alpha males. They absolutely expected to win.

Got it. So what is acceptable this year? Win the ACC? If we don't, do we go shopping for our version of Justin Fuente, who was supposed to "push everyone's &^%$ in?"

The problem is you consider real issues to be "excuses". That's where all of the fighting comes from around here. Dude commits a bonehead penalty that costs 7 points....."WHY ARENT THE COACHES TEACHING THEM".

Not sure what the snark is going to accomplish. If you're a "win now or else bro" type of fan, you're probably going to be disappointed and calling for a new coach all year.

That's fine if you feel that way. Just stand by it. 8 wins would be unacceptable.

Didn't you just say "win the ACC"? Do you stand by that? Win or you're gone?

You're one of those guys who think that 2001 was just a few years ago.

So win the ACC, or get rid of him?

So 8-4 is an acceptable step forward?

Well, you can be realistic about the program, or you can get distracted by every shiny object that wins on a particular Saturday.