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  1. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    It would be the Goldilocks zone, just right.
  2. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    Talk to @Hurracanes because it feels like not everyone is using the same script. (meant respectfully not critically).
  3. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    Some family member posts a tweet and you guys are all up in arms. LOL. Everyone has a crazy aunt or dumb as rocks cousin. Can't have that blowback on the recruits or Miami staff.
  4. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    Are you including bags? I'm assuming that is still rampant especially with Clemson, SEC and OSU.
  5. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    100% agree with this. I thinks this is half the reason CIS is so cynical right now. It would have been so much better if they had set expectations correctly and talked about what a battle all these guys would be. Or maybe they should have just STFU.
  6. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    I highly doubt it's that cut and dry. Most kids are smart enough to know that if the deal is in the same ballpark, they need to look at the total package, and that includes fit, happiness, coaching, exposure, NFL prospects, personal brand. I know there are companies and people I would never want...
  7. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    It's a great point. I really wish we had been able to convince one of them to go out prior to Franklin. Maybe it means our budget is bigger than we thought and we really can afford two more? The investment decisions are all on Mario, Rad and the collective at this point.
  8. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    Agree wtih this. Kid has talent. But Breland, Stone (and Scott) are all more talented. If we can't afford two NIL auctions, I would stick to our reservation price on Franklin and use the money to land one of the others. JMHO... And we still need to put a lot of money on the table for one more...
  9. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    That's what Zo said in one of his interviews. All recruits (and he didn't say it but clearly he meant even the 5 stars) have to go through evaluations.
  10. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    ^100% agree. And although I'm just a fan, I vividly remember the Coker staff only targeting Tom Lemming's top recruit list that kickstarted the destruction of the program.
  11. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    I hear you. And I don't have a problem with any of Mario's takes except Judd, tbh, because I think their eval capabilities are top notch. But my primary point was that we still need to be going after top 50, top 100, top 250 kids because there's a strong correlation between those national...
  12. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    Probably. But the approach to the negotiation matters, as does the details of the NIL deal. I would love to hear the play by play
  13. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    I agree with this wholeheartedly. You need BOTH the national elite kids and good evaluations. Nothing wrong at all with bringing your own recruits into the pipe from your network. But there's a reason we were/are going after nationally recognized recruits like Scott, Stone, Franklin, Breland, A...
  14. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    I'm definitely a homer with O&G glasses. So I get annoyed by mopes and believe extreme mopes have hidden agendas and should be banned ASAP. But you are spot on about extreme slurpers being detrimental, too. Starts to read like Warchant or the Gators board. Canes fans should be self-respecting...
  15. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    DL starting to come together with Lightfoot, Jones, Rudolph. Already a Top 10-20 haul. Need to grab Franklin next!! Is it greedy and unrealistic to also want at least 1 DL the caliber of Mauigoa or Pancake? Breland or Stone or steal one back who has verballed elsewhere?
  16. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    Does Gaby have a legit source inside any of these programs? Because Kamarion himself tells people what they want to hear for the most part as far as I can tell.
  17. grover

    2024 DL Kamarion Franklin 2.0 (commits to Ole Miss)

    Which means we "could" pay a suck tax if we wanted to for specific targets. We just haven't overpaid yet (maybe Trader and Lightfoot got extra to announce when they did). If there was ever a time to overpay, now is it. We absolutely need to land one of Kam and Breland, plus another elite...
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