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  1. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    Yeah, Calvin was big and strong, which were his key attributes over "pure foot speed". He frequently bullied DBs in order to make his receptions. Soooo impressive.
  2. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    Again, I'm not even talking about the NFL. I'm talking about college. Both guys had 3 great years and were dominant BOTH in college and the NFL from their first years at each level. Immediate impact. Now, each one has unique aspects. Butkus was probably one of the last great two-way...
  3. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    I hear ya. And while I don't dispute any of that, I would just point out that Rod Rutherford was a consistently more-accurate and higher-rated QB for Fitz's two years compared to Reggie Ball for Calvin's 3 years. In Calvin's best year, Reggie Ball had a 44.4% completion rate. Calvin had 76...
  4. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    These youngsters can't even comprehend what Ray did as a TRUE FRESHMAN on a lightly-talented team. Ray knew what he was doing, he dominated, he produced, he led. AS A FRESHMAN. And as the key target for opposing offenses to neutralize, they still couldn't shut Ray down.
  5. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    **** Butkus and Ray Lewis.
  6. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    I'd put Calvin Johnson on the list ahead of Larry Fitzgerald. Sorry. And I watched both of them play Miami. Calvin Johnson was just stunningly good. That one pass he caught against Miami, I think the QB was just trying to throw the ball away, and Calvin stuck out one hand and palmed the...
  7. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    And he would have been a 4 time All American if they let freshmen play back then...
  8. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    Don't forget Nebraska's award for "Most Steroid Pimples on a Body". They swept that category in 1983, as a certain Mr. Fitzpatrick probably told you...
  9. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    But "wearing his jersey" is a popularity thing, because, you know, he did those "money" things with his hands. Dale Earnhardt Jr. was the most popular NASCAR driver nearly every year he raced, and he sold the most merch BY FAR, but it didn't help him to win more frequently.
  10. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    Look, those are BY FAR Pitt's two most famous football alums (though there have been a couple others who had awesome NFL careers), but I think the point is that with SO MANY Miami greats (far more than 2), the complete omission of any Miami alums is more obvious. Dorsett I could say "yes", he...
  11. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    Also the FIRST winner of the Butkus Award. I remember when the Downtown Athletic Club of Orlando created the award, and I remember the Orlando Sentinel articles describing the award and naming Bosworth the winner. That actually happened in my senior year of high school, so I was INCREDIBLY...
  12. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    I agree with you 100%. Just look at the first 9 names, they are all running backs who played in a different era (maybe Ricky Williams is the most recent?), and they were all great. But then it descends into 11 random names with zero common criteria. It's just a crapshoot of famous names. So...
  13. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    And, again, this is why your posts on this thread are dopey and indicate horrible reading comprehension. This is NOT about "who you would take". I realize you have an unhealthy attraction to Cam Newton. DON'T CARE. This is about who the Top 20 college football players OF ALL TIME were. And...
  14. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    I didn't say "disqualified". But I'm not counting "one year of running" as some sort of a criteria for why Cam's INFERIOR PASSING CAREER (at least with the SEVEN Miami quarterbacks that I listed) should vault Newton into the Top Twenty of all time (and the top FOUR quarterbacks of all-time)...
  15. TheOriginalCane

    If you ever thought the hate wasn't real...

    You have got to be ****ting me. That is a list of the 20 best college football players OF ALL TIME. Cam Newton had ONE GOOD YEAR. That's it. And while it was a fine year, I can name hundreds of college football players who had BETTER CAREERS. Seriously, here are his college stats: ONE...
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