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I never said VY was a really good QB, the point was that without Sumlin Manziel completely destructed & couldn’t play in any capacity in any league, while Vince actually had some level of success after College. So was Manziel really anything more than a byproduct of the system he played in...

Vince Young - 31-18 W/L - 2x Pro Bowls - Rookie of the Year - 8,964yds 46TD’s & 51INT’s Passing - 1,459yds & 12TD’s Rushing Johnny Manziel - 10-22 W/L - 2,965yds 12TD’s & 14INT’s Passing - 474yds & 1TD Rushing Manziel was also hot garbage in the CFL.

Case Keenum threw for 19,000+ yards under Sumlin at Houston What exactly did Manziel do after he left Sumlin?

Manziel benefitted from playing in Kevin Sumlin’s/Kliff Kingsbury system. And you’re making an argument as if TAMU was completely devoid of talent - Mike Evans - Jake Matthews - Cedric Ogbuehi - Ryan Swope - Christine Michael - Damontre Moore - Luke Joeckel - Germain Ifedi He played...

Luke Kuechly & Dan Morgan should both be in over Bosworth Not having a single WR on this list is crazy, Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald & Trevor Insley all have an argument to be on. Ron Dayne & LaDainian Tomlinson have really strong cases to be on as well. Ed Reed & Devin Hester easily. &...