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If that were the factor in Manziel's success, it looks like Sumlin would have had more success afterward, especially since he pulled in a #5 and #11 class just following JM. After Manziel put up over 4800 total yds his last year, Sumlin never had a QB go over 3100 at A&M even though he had...

The goalposts seem to be moving. This was about college careers, no? Manziel was a partyboy and money and notoriety went to his head, end of story. But it doesn't change a thing about how good he was at Texas A&M. Like JM, I think Vince Young's college career should stand on its own. But I...

That's a little like Manziel's 562-yd 3 td passing, 2 td rushing against #1 Alabama - or as you would call it, "single handed taking over the game." That year he became the 5th player in NCAA history to pass for 3000 and rush for 1,000 -- doing it 2 games faster than any of those other players...

He's gonna be right beside Vince Young and Ryan Leaf in the NFL HOF, lol. They each had their (different) issues afterward

He didn't "single handedly" do any such thing. The fact is that he played on the most talented team in college football at the time. He did play extremely well in one game. That does not determine whether one should be on an all time great list. 11-2? Like I pointed out, Manziel played in...

Some good players in places no doubt, but being elite requires 22 starters + quality depth and it's clear that Texas having classes of 1, 2, 4, & 1 gave Young quite an advantage, especially you would think, in the Big 12. Manziel didn't do it all himself either, but classes of 12, 16, 34, 16...

No, I don't. Vince Young is one of the most overrated overhyped QBs in college football history and people everywhere have swallowed the Koolaid. Almost all of it rests on one game (USC) and the media's subsequent orgasmic agenda over it. Without that game, he would have been mostly forgotten...