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We had a bunch of players with a ****** work ethic, and being ok playing .500 ball. We’re actually 1 game below .500 vs p5 comp over the last 5 years.

Agree, Though, year one I give him a pass (not on the OC hire). Too many variables. With the Coaching adjustments and player turnover, I’m expecting to be in the ACC hunt going into the FSU game in November.

Idk man...i don't get it...maybe I was just on the wrong side of the OSU campus?