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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    I've lost interest, I'm sorry. Let's agree to disagree and move on. Go Canes
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    Ohhhh, burnnnn. Got me good there
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    "Disagreed with it strongly" is not "thrown out the window immediately" I'm guessing you know what our ranking is this week and haven't completely dismissed the AP poll, even though it's been as down on the ACC as the metrics.
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    The models said that we weren't an elite team, despite being in the Elite 8. We were then run off the floor in one of the worst beatdowns in Elite 8 history. We lost by 26; KU beat their 1st round cupcake by 27. We were their easiest or 2nd easiest game all tournament. We had a great year and...
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    So when the poll voters and the selection committee each treated the ACC like it was one of the worst (power) conferences, did you throw those out the window immediately? No, of course you didn't. For some reason, human prognosticators and analytical rating systems are held to completely...
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    Our short bench was held against us by the models. And ultimately, the models were right. Eventually, the bench matters - and when Sam and Miller were in foul trouble vs Kansas and we relied on our bench, we were outscored 47-15 in the 2nd half. If your bench is getting crushed in garbage...
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    Teaching a random person on a message board about sample sizes is a waste of my time. Yes, 2 teams from a conference making a FF could absolutely be an outlier. (Especially when one of them was an elite team all season long.) BTW, UNC was seeded 8th. No one was picking them to get to the F4...
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    The tournament is a tiny sample. I don't think it proves much. If USC hits that last shot vs Miami, 3 wins come off the ACC's record and Auburn probably gets to the E8. If one more shot goes in for Baylor in regulation, UNC wins 1 tournament game instead of 5. If Kentucky gets by St Peter's...
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    Miami was seeded 10th. The humans that seeded Miami were as wrong as Kenpom. Also, we all know March is a complete crap shoot. If that USC shot is 6 inches to the right, we lose in the first round. St Peter's wasn't one of the 8 best teams last year. Etc. But if you've somehow picked up that...
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    I mean, it's indisputable at this point that Kenpom is remarkably predictive. Your anecdote about Rutgers is not convincing - we beat them in 1 game, at home, that was tied with 90 seconds left. It's not clear at all that we are the better team (though I do think we will prove to be). Yes...
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    If you're a great shooter, you're a great offensive player. It's the most important skill in basketball. The problem is he hasn't been a great shooter so far.
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    NC STATE @ MIAMI(-3.5) 2PM SAT. DEC 10, RSN, ACCNX (also BALLY SPORTS S)

    We are 43 Kenpom, so it's no surprise we're not ranked. I'm not sure we've beaten a team that would be in the field of 68 if the tournament started today.
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