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And I was using your example, so it looks like we're both wrong.

Either he's a good coach or he isn't. If you meant only as an OC, say it.

Mario has won 12 games in a P5 conference. Lashlee is giving up 60 to Tulane. There isn't a conversation to be had.

This is what you do when you can't respond to my post. Very telling. I've never said a word about Gattis. But I did just call out Lashlee, which you ignored.

We're using Lashlee as the example of a "good coach"? He took over an 8-4 team and stands right now at 6-5.